Look out nerdy guys—if a woman is ovulating you may not be man enough to satisfy her.
So says a recent study involving two groups of women both in long-term heterosexual relationships. The women were asked to rate their partner’s stability and attractiveness while they tracked their ovulation cycles.
During two points in the women’s cycles (the time of high-fertility and the time of low-fertility) the women were questioned about the quality of their relationship.
Martie Haselton, one of the research psychologists running the study revealed, "Women with the really good, stable guy felt more distant at high-fertility periods than low-fertility periods. That isn't the case with women who were mated to particularly sexually attractive men. The closeness of their relationships got a boost just prior to ovulation."
Ouch. Why the preference of Mr. Attractive over Mr. Reliable?<a href="http://firsttoknow.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/man-checking-out-woman300X200.jpg"><img class="alignright wp-image-11111" title="man-checking-out-woman300X200" src="http://firsttoknow.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/man-checking-out-woman300X200.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="200" /></a>
Haselton believes evolutionary mating strategies may hold some answers. "Since our female ancestors couldn't directly examine a potential partner's genetic makeup, they had to base their decisions on physical manifestations of the presence of good genes and the absence of genetic mutations, which might include masculine features such as a deep voice, masculine face, dominant behavior and sexy looks."
And women think men can be shallow!
Another point of interest discovered during the study is that when women ovulate they speak at higher-pitches and like to get dressed up. This could be a subconscious—or even conscious—effort to search for a reproductive partner.
So, what does all this mean—that nice guys do finish last? Not necessarily. The study concluded that the women’s behavioral changes toward her mate were short-term and weren’t likely to affect her commitment to her relationship.
This should be a huge relief to certain males who believe their female partners manage to find fault with everything they do during certain times of the month.
This study will appear in the November issue of <em>Hormones and Behavior</em> and was conducted by research psychologists Christina Larson and Martie Haselton.
This article is the final straw. I. Give. Up. I am an honest, decent, dependable, hard-working guy with a respectable job in medicine. I have worked for YEARS not only build my career but a home for myself and what I had hoped to be a family one day. But after years of dealing with man hating feminists and crap like this that tells me even though I can provide a excellent life for my family, women still prefer the dirtbags from Jersey Shore, I give up. I’m gonna live my life alone, surrounded by the things that nice guys with good jobs can afford. I will still be a nice guy, I will still listen and be compassionate and empathetic, but that’s it. So go ahead ladies, chase after the Jersey Shore dirtbag that treats you like crap because he can. When you need someone to listen to your problems, you can always count on me, but don’t expect anything else, you made your choice, now deal with it.
“When you need someone to listen to your problems, you can always count on me” that’s a mistake. listening to their problems means LJBF
Luke, “I will still be a nice guy..” you are repeating the same mistake. Google Tom Leykis – listen for a while and read Don Steele like the other guy said. You need the right attitude! PS. the eastern european women are awesome, respectful, loving. Most of the women in the world don’t hate men – just 50% of the world bXthez are in america and expect you to kiss their posterior. There are some in US, be discriminating. first – attitude – you are the prize not them.
If you really were in medicine, you would know that this study reveals that it is likely hormones making women behave in this manner. Just like hormones control men’s sex drive. The journal is called “Hormones and Behavior”, not Psychology Today. Give me a break. Who likes guys on Jersey Shore anyway? They look like women on steroids and spend more time primping than the average 16 year old girl. Lose the negative attitude and put on an air of confidence. Women find that attractive in a man.
no, my man, you just need to learn game
Hey Luke,
I am a nice guy you and had the same problem. I went to Eastern Europe to find a great wife. Once you start dating the women of Eastern Europe you will never date American women again.
Hey Luke,
I’m SIX decades amidst the dating game…and i’ve expereinced the degrade for the past 30 years….some food for thought:
a)Women are shallow…get over it as 95% think (@ the most) TWO weeks ahead.
b)Women will ‘s#it test’ you EVERY DAY…understand you have to be
the MAN in control, otherwise your kicked to the curb. Its what their DNA screams!
c)If you are uncertain as to some of the terms i use, check out author
R. Don Steel as I’ve been reading his posts for years as he calls BS upon the ‘dating/social’ experts.
d)Check out ”Boys on the side” & “The End of Men” articles in The Atlantic to have a clue of the change in the game. American women are now ranked #1 for being sluts (by the rest of the world)
e)American women are considered worthless by Asian/Euro/Latino men, Woe to any US woman who (even remotely) thinks that her game
will be accepted outside the US….Nada, Zip! They will have to resort to being a carpet muncher as no other (outside US) will touch them. Seriously!
Being alone is a WHOLE lot perferable than to being alone and MARRIED to someone who is self hating.
And NEVER, EVER become their “emotional tampon” when a women
says ‘Your my best friend’. You will become the ‘substandard boyfriend’ (ie Beta: no sex for you) while they muck up their lives with every alpha that pumps ‘em & dumps ‘em.
All The Best In your Journey…….
Awww! Wow! You sound so charming! It’s a a wonder that you aren’t dripping with women. I mean you sound like the kind of a-holes that self-hating women just LOVE: controlling men who think they’re worthless.
I think if you reread the article, you’ll find that this little piece of info had no impact on the women’s level of commitment to her partner, just maybe her libido. Women that aren’t capable of commitment (and they surely exist!) are exactly that. All the time, ovulation or not. To suppose that women are mindless slaves to hormones is to devalue the whole gender, American, Asian, European, or otherwise.
Again, if you’re really serious about finding a woman to raise a family with (not just one who will raise it for you) you might want to think about NOT lumping women all in one category of “game players”. Instead, try to clearly see who she, as an individual, is, and likewise, don’t try to hide who you are. Women and men ultimately want the same thing: someone who will be honest, kind, respectful, dependable, and caring. And well… you can’t deny there has to be chemistry.
Now this is a healthy perspective and will serve the author well.
I’ve been saying this for decades. I wrote — Nice Guys Don’t Get Laid — It is now in it’s 3rd edition on my web site and Amazon.
Glen Beck you are the best! Obama in PeePee was brilliant! You’ve got the progressives twisted up in their panties over that one. … And Glenn Beck crew — send me an email and a free one is on it’s way.
Dirty tramps
Nerdy != Nice.
Nice != Nerdy.
What this means is, any guy who is not Ashton Kutcher level of attractive, dominant, famous, and desired (by the ladies) is a fool to marry. Or cohabitate. Since his main gal will always be up to having her kids by another guy. To bottom line it.
The smart move, to avoid chumpdom, and loserville (and there is nothing more loserville than raising another man’s kid) is to live like a Rap Star as much as possible. Or the men of the NBA. THEY should be every man’s role model. Really. The Nuclear Family can only exist when women’s sexual freedom is partially (not fully) repressed. No limits in society means, if the research is true, and we know it is, Ashton Kutcher level guys need not worry, for the 99% of guys lower, they better be prepared to raise another man’s kid. Or just don’t be there at all. And let some other chump raise yours.
I’ve come to the exact same conclusion through my own experiences, whiskey, and could not agree with you more.
Any man who thinks that they can develop a meaningful, trusting relationship with a woman in today’s western society is a fool. Whether because of hormones or culture, most women are only attracted to the kind of guy who will not value their attention and treat them like garbage. If you aren’t a wealthy loudmouthed brute, you will likely have trouble keeping a woman’s interest.
But if that’s who they want, then that’s exactly who they deserve to be with. Nice guys need to stop scraping up the refuse left behind by douchebags and developing emotional attachments to it. That will only lead to a great deal pain and being taken advantage of in the end. If women want to whore themselves out to men who they perceive as more dominant, let them, and see where it gets them in the end. Nice guys, you need to use them for what you need and cut them out of your lives.
Not only will you save yourself from a life of chumpdom, but you will find that a noncommittal attitude gets you more action in the end, as none of these fish want a guy who is too into them.
Title is mis-leading. Article only says women are more attracted by looks when ovulating then when not. Looks and personality are not mutually exclusive. Bottom line, take care of yourself, don’t dress like a schlump (I can’t imagine any women finds someone walking around with a faded, nascar tee-shirt or a NFL jersey particularly attractive) and watch the clues. When your women starts to dress-up do the same and seize the moment.
Jeez Luke, get some medical-grade Dating Chloroform. Problem solved.
I’ve always said when I hear women whine that men are stupid, brutal cowboys, who in hell is mating with them so there are more every generation ;’)
This article illustrates one more reason why the practice of arrainged marriage is evolutionarily adaptive. It improves the odds ones female offspring will be paired with the most reliable long-term provider rather than a fling she was only temporarily hot for. The chances ones second-generation offspring survive to reproductive age are thus improved.
Those ancient peoples weren’t dummies like modern fad-following folk. Science has demonstrated it again!
Luke – I hear you man. Women have gone completely bonkers and it’s close to impossible for a man with some dignity and self-respect to have a healthy, balanced relationship with them anymore. Luckily, I married young and had a child before I woke up and got divorced. My daughter is grown and a very cool kid (but a women who has also been wrecked by our society wrt her attitude about men). So I don’t have that ticking clock.
The reason I’m reaching out is that you have come the wrong conclusion. Look deep inside, do you really ‘want’ to be a nice, good guy? Or have you been programmed by feminists to beat back your more caveman like impulses? I basically re-discovered my inner pig – I’d only wished I’d done so 25 years ago. I have sex with whoever I want, I call back if I feel like it, if the chick isn’t into it I move on to the next one. If they want to be friends, I let them try, but very soon they become manipulative or dominating of demanding – at which point I cut them loose.
Do I lie to them? Yes. They are mostly so confused you can’t get a straight answer to a straight question anyway. And most of them think they are superior to men, some unconsciously, so I say it’s all fair game. I no longer want to be married again. I don’t want to give some woman half my stuff. I don’t want them to decorate my home. I don’t want to ‘keep house’ the way they see fit. I just want female company from time to time and fun sex. I need nothing else from a woman because the company of most of them on a long term basis requires I tolerate a level of nonsense that I don’t tolerate from any other segment of my life. So I don’t. And I’m happier than I’ve ever been.
I spent far too long trying to ‘make it work’ long term with several women. In the process i degraded myself and tried to be what they ‘said’ they wanted. The truth is that most women have no idea what they want in any kind of fixed sense. They feel entitled to ‘have it all’ – have you noticed? Funny, as a man, I was never told once in my life that I could have it all. Instead I learned from the outset that choices in life were tradeoffs and compromises, I rarely meet women who are so grounded.
A vignette from my long dead marriage. My ex was the type who would get meaner, scream louder and if she still didn’t get her way she’d pout and simmer for days, treating me terribly. I remember on argument that really broke me inside. It was about something minor, but she simply would not meet me half way. I asked her, “Do you understand what compromise is? We both give a little and don’t get everything we want.” She just looked at me like I was a crazy man. So I tried this out – as a joke – I thought it would break the tension. I said, “Okay, I understand. How about we compromise and do it your way?” She beamed a huge smile and said, “Exactly”. We had great sex afterwards but it was at that moment which I realized I was dealing with an adult child who had no interest in a fair or balanced relationship. ‘Nuf said.